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=== Atributions of UTP-Panama Team ===
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To see the atributions of UTP-Panama
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Team Members click the <A href="https://2011.igem.org/Team:UTP-Panama/Team_atribution">here</A>.
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=== Official Team Profile ===
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https://igem.org/Team.cgi<br>
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== '''Who we are''' ==
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== '''OUR TEAM''' ==
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=== Sensei/Jedi Master ===
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Grimaldo Elías Ureña M.(Instructor & Director)<br>
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The father, the guru, the light in the darkness of the UTP Team.
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=== Senpai/Padawan ===
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Lucia L. Palma (Human Practice Advisor).<br>
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The oracle, the organization, the peace in the storm.
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'''FACULTY STAFF & INSTRUCTOR'''<br>
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===ADVISOR===
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Humberto Alvarez <Br>
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Ricardo Correa  & Lorena Coronado<Br>
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Grimaldo Elías Ureña M.
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'''''Thanks for all, Kike & Lorena our Lab Heroes'''!''
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''Others Lab Colaborators''<br>
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'''ADVISOR''' <Br>
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Lucia L. Palma  <Br>
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Ricardo Correa <Br>
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Eblis Diaz Corro <Br>
Eblis Diaz Corro <Br>
Zeuz Capitan Barrios <Br>
Zeuz Capitan Barrios <Br>
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===FACULTY STAFF ===
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Marcela Paredez de Vazquez (president), thanks for Believing in US!<br>
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Dr Humberto Alvarez, Dr Martin Candanedo, Dr Eleicer Ching, Dr Ignacio Chang.
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Members of the UTP Administration that Collaborate and help us run our team.
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Thanks Dr Candenedo & Alvarez for all the time and collaboration!!!
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'''Associated Professors'''<Br>
'''Associated Professors'''<Br>
Damarys Cortes<Br>
Damarys Cortes<Br>
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Indira Franco<Br>
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Indira Franco<br>
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==THE STUDENTS==
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<div align="center"> [[File:DSCF4795.JPG|400px]] <br> <br>
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<br>
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Some day great Scientist!<br>
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'''ALL UNDERGRADS'''
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[[File:k wiki pict.jpg|right|225px|]]
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''' Kesia M. Barrows'''
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<br>'''Career:''' Food Engineering
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<br>'''Favorite areas of study:''' Biochemistry, food microbiology and languages
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<br>'''What do you think about iGEM?:''' I think iGEM is an excellent opportunity for young people  to do science.
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<br>'''Hobbies:''' Reading, watch scifi movies and play brain/interactive games
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<br>'''Favorite Book:''' The Alchemist (Paulo Coelho)<br>
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'''Favorite Quote:''' "The important thing is not to stop questioning", Albert Einstein
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[[File:Valery eugenia.JPG|left|250px|]]
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'''STUDENTS:'''
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'''Valery Díaz'''
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All Undergrads
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<br>'''Career:''' Civil Engineering
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<br>'''Favorite areas of study:''' Advanced mathematics, green construction, megastructures, the universe.
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<br>'''What do you think about iGEM?:''' is the best way of learning and spreading this new science called Synthetic Biology
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<br>'''Hobbies:''' Dancing, playing tennis, reading and watching movies.
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<br>'''Favorite Book:''' I can't choose one, it has to be between one of Dan Brown, Agatha Christie or Harry Potter.
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<br>'''Favorite Quote:''' "It's kind of fun to do the impossible", W. Disney
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*'''Student 1''':       Alicia Arelys Racine A.
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*'''Student 2''':  Arturo Nieves
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*'''Student 3''': Dukakis Tejada
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*'''Student 4''': Emmanuel Garuz
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*'''Student 5''': Fotis Stringos
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*'''Student 6''': Kesia Barrows
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*'''Student 7''': Miguel A. Cardenas A.
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*'''Student 8''': Naicolette Agudo
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*'''Student 9''': Valery Díaz
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*'''Student 10''': José Alejandro Ng
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*'''Student 11''':      Michelle Camarena
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'''Web site Collaborator Student:'''<Br>
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'''Dukakis Tejada'''
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William Vong<br>
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<br>'''Career:''' Food engineering
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<br>'''Favorite areas of study:''' Food engineering, Synthetic biology, Supply chain engineering, Bussiness administration.
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<br>'''What do you think about iGEM?:'''  iGEM ​​is an excellent platform to test our wits and skills, we can achieve <br>cultural exchange and knowledge, and contribute to the world through the development of GEMs useful to science and technology.
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<br>'''Hobbies:''' I enjoy dancing Salsa, playing soccer, spending time with friends, doing bodybuilding and reading about history and economy.
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<br>'''Favorite Book:''' Calidad Total y Productividad from Humberto Gutierrez Pulido
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<br>'''Favorite Quote:''' "Make your passion your profession, then the work becomes play"
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'''Interested Students:''' (for next iGEM team Years)<Br>
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David Ricardo González<Br>
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Ana Cristina Candanedo <Br>
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[[File:art wiki.jpg|left|320px|]]
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Ivan Mendoza<Br>
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Luis Hernandez<Br>
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Carlos Fraguela<br>
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'''Arturo Alexis Nieves Portillo'''
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<br>'''Career:'''Software Development
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Image:UTP-Panama_Team_member_1.png|Alicia Arelys Racine Atencio
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<br>'''Favorite areas of study:''' software,chemistry,biology, sci-fi, cutting edge technologies.
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Image:UTP-Panama_Team_member_2.png|Ana Cristina Candanedo
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<br>'''What do you think about iGEM?:''' iGem competition is a great opportunity to know how to help the world by developing a new fascinating science like synthetic biology is.
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Image:UTP-Panama_Team_member_3.png|Arturo Nieves
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<br>'''Hobbies:''' tennis, football soccer, videogames, reading, hanging out with friends or family.
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Image:UTP-Panama_Team_member_4.png|Carlos Fraguela
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<br>'''Favorite Book:''' there are many of them: The Holy Bible(top knowledge), and sci-fi books like Isaac Asimov  Foundation and Empire.
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Image:UTP-Panama_Team_member_5.png|David Ricardo González
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<br>'''Favorite Quote:''' Be whoever you want to be; but be yourself. Charlie Chaplin.
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Image:UTP-Panama_Team_member_6.png|Dukakis Tejada
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Image:UTP-Panama_Team_member_7.png|Emmanuel Garuz
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Image:UTP-Panama_Team_member_8.png|Fotis Stringos
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Image:UTP-Panama_Team_member_9.png|Ivan Mendoza
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Image:UTP-Panama_Team_member_10.png|Kesia Barrows
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Image:UTP-Panama_Team_member_11.png|Luis E. Hernández M.
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Image:UTP-Panama_Team_member_12.png|Miguel Angel Cardenas Alonso
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Image:UTP-Panama_Team_member_13.png|Naicolette Agudo
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Image:UTP-Panama_Team_member_14.png|Valery Díaz
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Image:UTP-Panama_Team_member_15.png|William Vong
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== Attributions (at this moment)==
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[[File:EmmanuelTeamMember.jpg|right|300px|]]
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'''Emmanuel Garuz'''
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<br>'''Career:''' Electromechanical engineering.
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<br>'''Favorite areas of study:''' Robotics, control systems, mecatronics, languages.
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<br>'''What do you think about iGEM?:''' It's a good opportunity for me to learn about biology, and as a competition, it gives me responsibilities and experience.
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<br>'''Hobbies:''' Soccer, billiard, chess, gym and ping pong.
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===Think Tank (our creative and project design staff)===
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Work: select the team project, think about others projects, and keep the scientific and logistic of whole the project. <br>
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[[File:Jano.jpg|left|220px|]]
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Miguel Cardenas''<br>
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'''José Alejandro Ng'''
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Salomon Mitre'''<br>
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<br>'''Career:''' Civil Engineering
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Valery Diaz <br>
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<br>'''Favorite areas of study:''' Transportation enginneering, construction of: bridges, crossroads and  highways, airports design, material mechanics and the study of transportation solutions.
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Jose Ng<br>
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<br>'''What do you think about iGEM?:''' The best experience of my life. The synbio is the future. With the human practices I can share this science with my country.
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Arturo Nieves<br>
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<br>'''Hobbies:''' Watch TV Series and soccer games, play soccer and tennis(recent sport for me), spend time with my friends and family.
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Fotis Stringos<br>
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<br>'''Favorite Book:''' EC7 Louis Leithold, hahaha kiding. The 7 habits of highly effective teens, Sean Covey
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Alicia Racine<br>
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<br>'''Favorite Quote:''' "My world, My Possibilities" - José Ng
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Dukakis Tejada<br>
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Kesia Barrows<br>
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Emmanuel Garuz<br>
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Naicolette A. Muñoz <br>
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===Think Tank Support:===
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Work: The introduction of iGEM Competition and the Synthetic Biology field to our University Students <br>
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Grimaldo Ureña (Instructor & SynBio, Genetic Engineering, Modeling & Simulation Lecture)<br>
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[[File:Naicolette wiki.jpg|right|250px|]]
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Lucia Lasso (Humam Practice and Organization Advisor) <br>
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=== Human Practices ===
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'''Naicolette Abraham Agudo Muñoz'''
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<br>'''Career:''' Civil/Geomatics Engineering
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<br>'''Favorite areas of study:''' Astrophysics, pure and applied mathematics, philosophy; fluid mechanics, synthetic biology, highways design and geosciences.
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<br>'''What do you think about iGEM?:''' It's more versatile than I thought! I can find a lot of applications from this related to my likes and has opened my mind to new areas.
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<br>'''Hobbies:''' Explain maths, spend time with my friends, sleep, eat, philosophize, and above all: kid on =D
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<br>'''Favorite Book:''' The Hole Bible and Ideas of Human Nature - Roger Trigg
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<br>'''Favorite Quote:''' "Don't let evade by what time decides; let yourself go by what's fit on your faith"...Me
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Valery Diaz <br>
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<br style="clear: both" />
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Jose Ng<br>
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Arturo Nieves<br>
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[[File:Alicia wiki pic.jpg|left|250px|]]
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Fotis Stringos<br>
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'''Alicia Arelys Racine Atencio'''
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<br>'''Career:''' Electromechanical Engineering
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<br>''''Favorite areas of study:''' Mecatronics, Bionics, Neuroengineering, SynBio
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<br>'''What do you think about iGEM?:''' It's a great opportunity to turn young students into researchers, it' s been an excellent experience so far, i'm loving it!
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<br>'''Hobbies:''' sleep :), eat, dance!
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<br>'''Favorite Book:''' Sangre de Campeon by Carlos Cuauhtemoc Sánchez
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<br>'''Favorite Quote:''' What would you do if you knew you couldn't fail?
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=== Modeling & Simulation Our Proyect ===
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[[File:fs wiki.jpg|right|325px|]]
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Emmanuel Garuz<br>
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'''Fotis J. Stringos S.'''
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Fotis Stringos<br>
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<br>'''Career:''' Electromechanical Engineering
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Naicolette A. Muñoz <br>
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<br>'''Favorite areas of study:'''  Energy Market , Aerospace and electronic systems,and Synbio
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<br>'''What do you think about iGEM?:'''It’s a great initiative because it gives us the unique opportunity to make use of all our engineering knowledge and apply it for synbio.
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<br>'''Hobbies:''' Playing soccer,jogging,watching the Champions league.
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<br>'''Favorite Book:''' The Power of Focus, by Jack Canfield
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<br>'''Favorite Quote:''' We must free ourselves of the hope that the sea will ever rest. We must learn to sail in high winds.Aristotle Onassis
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[[File:Soyfeliz wiki.jpg|left|325px|]]
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=== Wet lab ===
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'''Miguel Á. Cárdenas A.'''
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Work : made all the competence cells, ligation, transformation, cloning, etc in the Lab. This group do all this stuff alone. Amazing to us because their are  Food Engineering Students, Electrical Engineering and Mechanical Engineering students.<br>
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<br>'''Career:''' Electromechanical Engineering
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Alicia Racine<br>
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<br>'''Favorite areas of study:''' Mecatronics, Bionics, physics, SynBio
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Dukakis Tejada<br>
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<br>'''What do you think about iGEM?:''' It's an excellent competition. We(students) have the opportunity to practice science in a different way.
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Kesia Barrows<br>
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<br>'''Hobbies:''' Videogames, anime, manga, learn about different cultures.
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Salomon Mitre<br>
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<br>'''Favorite Book:''' Fate Zero, by Gen Urobuchi.
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Michelle Camarena <br>
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<br>'''Favorite Quote:''' You are what you beleive to be, By Miguel Cárdenas
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'''Wet Lab Advisors:'''<br>
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Work: Teach Students Lab techniques (molecular Biology), remember that is a full not biological engineers students member team<br>
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Ricardo Correa (lab techniques) <br>
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[[File:Salomon.jpg|right|325px|]]
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Zeus Capitan <br>
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Grimaldo Ureña (theory)<br>
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===Wiki support===
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'''Salomón Mitre Bethancourt'''
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William Vong <br>
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<br>'''Career:''' Electrical Engineering<br>
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Grimaldo E. Ureña <br>
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<br>'''Favorite areas of study:''' Physics and History.
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<br>'''What do you think about iGEM?:'''Great learning opportunity.
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<br>'''Hobbies:'''v-games, football, ufc.
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<br>'''Favorite Book:''' the tale-tell heart, by Edgar Allan Poe.
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<br>'''Favorite Quote:''' "El mundo deberia reirse mas, pero despues de haber comido", "the world should laugh more. But after having eaten",--Mario Fortino Alfonso Moreno Reyes a.k.a. cantinflas.
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<br style="clear: both" />
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[[File:mich wiki.jpg|left|275px|]]
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'''TEAM GENERAL DIRECTOR'''<br>
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'''Michelle Camarena'''
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Instructor: Grimaldo E. Ureña<br>
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<br>'''Career:''' Food Engineering
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<br>'''Favorite areas of study:''' food production process, microbiology, languages, synthetic biology, and music.
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<br>'''What do you think about iGEM?:'''  iGEM is the added value in my profession because I can apply a different form what I have learned so far
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<br>'''Hobbies:''' eat, dance, read, sing.
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<br>'''Favorite Book:''' Juventud en Éxtasis by Carlos Cuahtémoc Sánchez
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<br>'''Favorite Quote:''' God gives us everything we need to succeed
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== '''Where we're from''' ==
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===Universidad Tecnológica de Panamá (UTP)===
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'''William Vong'''
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Technological University of Panama
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<br>'''Career:''' Computer Systems Engineering
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[http://utp.ac.pa/]
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<br>'''Favorite areas of study:''' Computer security, Artificial Inteligence, Physics (i like it.. but im not good at all)
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<br>'''What do you think about iGEM?:''' It's a great challenge for the students to became more and o more.
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<br>'''Hobbies:''' Web surffing, chat, watch tv, think =D
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<br>'''Favorite Book:''' "Crime and Punishment"
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<br>'''Favorite Quote:''' "I don´t know..." XD
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<br style="clear: both" />
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Official Team Profile

https://igem.org/Team.cgi

OUR TEAM

Sensei/Jedi Master

Grimaldo Elías Ureña M.(Instructor & Director)
The father, the guru, the light in the darkness of the UTP Team.

Senpai/Padawan

Lucia L. Palma (Human Practice Advisor).
The oracle, the organization, the peace in the storm.

ADVISOR

Ricardo Correa & Lorena Coronado
Thanks for all, Kike & Lorena our Lab Heroes!
Others Lab Colaborators
Eblis Diaz Corro
Zeuz Capitan Barrios

FACULTY STAFF

Marcela Paredez de Vazquez (president), thanks for Believing in US!
Dr Humberto Alvarez, Dr Martin Candanedo, Dr Eleicer Ching, Dr Ignacio Chang. Members of the UTP Administration that Collaborate and help us run our team. Thanks Dr Candenedo & Alvarez for all the time and collaboration!!!
Associated Professors
Damarys Cortes
Indira Franco

THE STUDENTS

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Some day great Scientist!
ALL UNDERGRADS





K wiki pict.jpg

Kesia M. Barrows
Career: Food Engineering
Favorite areas of study: Biochemistry, food microbiology and languages
What do you think about iGEM?: I think iGEM is an excellent opportunity for young people to do science.
Hobbies: Reading, watch scifi movies and play brain/interactive games
Favorite Book: The Alchemist (Paulo Coelho)
Favorite Quote: "The important thing is not to stop questioning", Albert Einstein



Valery eugenia.JPG

Valery Díaz
Career: Civil Engineering
Favorite areas of study: Advanced mathematics, green construction, megastructures, the universe.
What do you think about iGEM?: is the best way of learning and spreading this new science called Synthetic Biology
Hobbies: Dancing, playing tennis, reading and watching movies.
Favorite Book: I can't choose one, it has to be between one of Dan Brown, Agatha Christie or Harry Potter.
Favorite Quote: "It's kind of fun to do the impossible", W. Disney



Duk under.jpg

Dukakis Tejada
Career: Food engineering
Favorite areas of study: Food engineering, Synthetic biology, Supply chain engineering, Bussiness administration.
What do you think about iGEM?: iGEM ​​is an excellent platform to test our wits and skills, we can achieve
cultural exchange and knowledge, and contribute to the world through the development of GEMs useful to science and technology.
Hobbies: I enjoy dancing Salsa, playing soccer, spending time with friends, doing bodybuilding and reading about history and economy.
Favorite Book: Calidad Total y Productividad from Humberto Gutierrez Pulido
Favorite Quote: "Make your passion your profession, then the work becomes play"



Art wiki.jpg

Arturo Alexis Nieves Portillo
Career:Software Development
Favorite areas of study: software,chemistry,biology, sci-fi, cutting edge technologies.
What do you think about iGEM?: iGem competition is a great opportunity to know how to help the world by developing a new fascinating science like synthetic biology is.
Hobbies: tennis, football soccer, videogames, reading, hanging out with friends or family.
Favorite Book: there are many of them: The Holy Bible(top knowledge), and sci-fi books like Isaac Asimov Foundation and Empire.
Favorite Quote: Be whoever you want to be; but be yourself. Charlie Chaplin.



EmmanuelTeamMember.jpg

Emmanuel Garuz
Career: Electromechanical engineering.
Favorite areas of study: Robotics, control systems, mecatronics, languages.
What do you think about iGEM?: It's a good opportunity for me to learn about biology, and as a competition, it gives me responsibilities and experience.
Hobbies: Soccer, billiard, chess, gym and ping pong.



Jano.jpg

José Alejandro Ng
Career: Civil Engineering
Favorite areas of study: Transportation enginneering, construction of: bridges, crossroads and highways, airports design, material mechanics and the study of transportation solutions.
What do you think about iGEM?: The best experience of my life. The synbio is the future. With the human practices I can share this science with my country.
Hobbies: Watch TV Series and soccer games, play soccer and tennis(recent sport for me), spend time with my friends and family.
Favorite Book: EC7 Louis Leithold, hahaha kiding. The 7 habits of highly effective teens, Sean Covey
Favorite Quote: "My world, My Possibilities" - José Ng



Naicolette wiki.jpg

Naicolette Abraham Agudo Muñoz
Career: Civil/Geomatics Engineering
Favorite areas of study: Astrophysics, pure and applied mathematics, philosophy; fluid mechanics, synthetic biology, highways design and geosciences.
What do you think about iGEM?: It's more versatile than I thought! I can find a lot of applications from this related to my likes and has opened my mind to new areas.
Hobbies: Explain maths, spend time with my friends, sleep, eat, philosophize, and above all: kid on =D
Favorite Book: The Hole Bible and Ideas of Human Nature - Roger Trigg
Favorite Quote: "Don't let evade by what time decides; let yourself go by what's fit on your faith"...Me



Alicia wiki pic.jpg

Alicia Arelys Racine Atencio
Career: Electromechanical Engineering
'Favorite areas of study: Mecatronics, Bionics, Neuroengineering, SynBio
What do you think about iGEM?: It's a great opportunity to turn young students into researchers, it' s been an excellent experience so far, i'm loving it!
Hobbies: sleep :), eat, dance!
Favorite Book: Sangre de Campeon by Carlos Cuauhtemoc Sánchez
Favorite Quote: What would you do if you knew you couldn't fail?



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Fotis J. Stringos S.
Career: Electromechanical Engineering
Favorite areas of study: Energy Market , Aerospace and electronic systems,and Synbio
What do you think about iGEM?:It’s a great initiative because it gives us the unique opportunity to make use of all our engineering knowledge and apply it for synbio.
Hobbies: Playing soccer,jogging,watching the Champions league.
Favorite Book: The Power of Focus, by Jack Canfield
Favorite Quote: We must free ourselves of the hope that the sea will ever rest. We must learn to sail in high winds.Aristotle Onassis




Soyfeliz wiki.jpg

Miguel Á. Cárdenas A.
Career: Electromechanical Engineering
Favorite areas of study: Mecatronics, Bionics, physics, SynBio
What do you think about iGEM?: It's an excellent competition. We(students) have the opportunity to practice science in a different way.
Hobbies: Videogames, anime, manga, learn about different cultures.
Favorite Book: Fate Zero, by Gen Urobuchi.
Favorite Quote: You are what you beleive to be, By Miguel Cárdenas



Salomon.jpg

Salomón Mitre Bethancourt
Career: Electrical Engineering

Favorite areas of study: Physics and History.
What do you think about iGEM?:Great learning opportunity.
Hobbies:v-games, football, ufc.
Favorite Book: the tale-tell heart, by Edgar Allan Poe.
Favorite Quote: "El mundo deberia reirse mas, pero despues de haber comido", "the world should laugh more. But after having eaten",--Mario Fortino Alfonso Moreno Reyes a.k.a. cantinflas.




Mich wiki.jpg

Michelle Camarena
Career: Food Engineering
Favorite areas of study: food production process, microbiology, languages, synthetic biology, and music.
What do you think about iGEM?: iGEM is the added value in my profession because I can apply a different form what I have learned so far
Hobbies: eat, dance, read, sing.
Favorite Book: Juventud en Éxtasis by Carlos Cuahtémoc Sánchez
Favorite Quote: God gives us everything we need to succeed



Will.jpg

William Vong
Career: Computer Systems Engineering
Favorite areas of study: Computer security, Artificial Inteligence, Physics (i like it.. but im not good at all)
What do you think about iGEM?: It's a great challenge for the students to became more and o more.
Hobbies: Web surffing, chat, watch tv, think =D
Favorite Book: "Crime and Punishment"
Favorite Quote: "I don´t know..." XD